<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4870905574657583796.post3690748619964349701..comments</id><updated>2011-07-20T09:03:01.787-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Under the Dome: HB1204 first on today's House agenda</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.underthedome.com/feeds/3690748619964349701/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/3690748619964349701/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.underthedome.com/2009/02/hb1204-first-on-todays-house-agenda.html'/><author><name>Steve Harrelson</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02525770449071261507</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tx8_HjJAFqU/TEAHkPFnOTI/AAAAAAAACLI/9OZ9irh4kcQ/S220/ig.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>6</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4870905574657583796.post-2747641509826061170</id><published>2009-02-05T19:05:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-05T19:05:00.000-06:00</updated><title type='text'>The people vote for President now in all 50 states...</title><content type='html'>The people vote for President now in all 50 states and have done so in most states for 200 years. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;So, the issue raised by the National Popular Vote legislation is not about whether there will be "mob rule" in presidential elections, but whether the "mob" in a handful of closely divided battleground states, such as Florida, get disproportionate attention from presidential candidates, while the "mobs" of the vast majority of states are ignored. In 2004, candidates spent over two thirds of their visits and two-thirds of their money in just 6 states and 99% of their money in just 16 states, while ignoring the rest of the country. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The current system does NOT provide some kind of check on the "mobs." There have been 22,000 electoral votes cast since presidential elections became competitive (in 1796), and only 10 have been cast for someone other than the candidate nominated by the elector's own political party.  The electors are dedicated party activists who meet briefly in mid-December to cast their totally predictable votes in accordance with their pre-announced pledges.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/3690748619964349701/comments/default/2747641509826061170'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/3690748619964349701/comments/default/2747641509826061170'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.underthedome.com/2009/02/hb1204-first-on-todays-house-agenda.html?showComment=1233882300000#c2747641509826061170' title=''/><author><name>mvymvy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07860792846652677912</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.underthedome.com/2009/02/hb1204-first-on-todays-house-agenda.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4870905574657583796.post-3690748619964349701' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/posts/default/3690748619964349701' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-507246720'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4870905574657583796.post-1709146943073080761</id><published>2009-02-05T19:04:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-05T19:04:00.000-06:00</updated><title type='text'>What the Founding Fathers said in the U.S. Constit...</title><content type='html'>What the Founding Fathers said in the U.S. Constitution  is "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors . . ." The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly characterized the authority of the state legislatures over the manner of awarding their electoral votes as "plenary" and "exclusive."&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Neither of the two most important features of the current system of electing the President (namely, that the voters may vote and the winner-take-all rule) are in the U.S. Constitution. Neither was the choice of the Founders when they went back to their states to organize the nation's first presidential election. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In 1789, in the nation's first election, the people had no vote for President in most states, it was necessary to own a substantial amount of property in order to vote, and only 3 states used the winner-take-all rule (awarding all of a state's electoral vote to the candidate who gets the most votes in the state). Since then, as a result of changes in state laws, the people have the right to vote for presidential electors in 100% of the states, there are no property requirements for voting in any state, and the winner-take-all rule is used by 48 of the 50 states. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The normal process of effecting change in the method of electing the President is specified the U.S. Constitution, namely action by the state legislatures. This is how the current system was created, and this is the built-in method that the Constitution provides for making changes.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/3690748619964349701/comments/default/1709146943073080761'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/3690748619964349701/comments/default/1709146943073080761'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.underthedome.com/2009/02/hb1204-first-on-todays-house-agenda.html?showComment=1233882240000#c1709146943073080761' title=''/><author><name>mvymvy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07860792846652677912</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.underthedome.com/2009/02/hb1204-first-on-todays-house-agenda.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4870905574657583796.post-3690748619964349701' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/posts/default/3690748619964349701' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-507246720'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4870905574657583796.post-4401608940600664898</id><published>2009-02-05T19:03:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-05T19:03:00.002-06:00</updated><title type='text'>80% OF ARKANSAS VOTERS SUPPORT A NATIONAL POPULAR ...</title><content type='html'>80% OF ARKANSAS VOTERS SUPPORT A NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE FOR PRESIDENT IN DECEMBER 2008 POLL&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A survey of 800 Arkansas voters conducted on December 15-16, 2008 showed 80% overall support for a national popular vote for President.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Support was 88% among Democrats, 71% among Republicans, and 79% among independents.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;By age, support was 89% among 18-29 year olds, 76% among 30-45 year olds, 80% among 46-65 year olds, and 80% for those older than 65.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;By gender, support was 88% among women and 71% among men.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;By race, support was 81% among whites (representing 80% of respondents), 80% among African-Americans (representing 16% of respondents), and 68% among Others (representing 4% of respondents).</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/3690748619964349701/comments/default/4401608940600664898'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/3690748619964349701/comments/default/4401608940600664898'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.underthedome.com/2009/02/hb1204-first-on-todays-house-agenda.html?showComment=1233882180002#c4401608940600664898' title=''/><author><name>mvymvy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07860792846652677912</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.underthedome.com/2009/02/hb1204-first-on-todays-house-agenda.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4870905574657583796.post-3690748619964349701' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/posts/default/3690748619964349701' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-507246720'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4870905574657583796.post-4763839377249641458</id><published>2009-02-05T19:03:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-05T19:03:00.001-06:00</updated><title type='text'>The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the...</title><content type='html'>The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC). &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Every vote would be politically relevant and equal in presidential elections. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The bill would take effect only when enacted, in identical form, by states possessing a majority of the electoral votes—that is, enough electoral votes to elect a President (270 of 538). When the bill comes into effect, all the electoral votes from those states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC). &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The Constitution gives every state the power to allocate its electoral votes for president, as well as to change state law on how those votes are awarded. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The bill is currently endorsed by 1,246 state legislators — 460 sponsors (in 48 states) and an additional 786 legislators who have cast recorded votes in favor of the bill.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The National Popular Vote bill has been endorsed by the New York Times, Chicago Sun-Times, Minneapolis Star-Tribune, Los Angeles Times, Boston Globe, Hartford Courant, Miami Herald, Sarasota Herald Tribune, Sacramento Bee, The Tennessean, Fayetteville Observer, Anderson Herald Bulletin, Wichita Falls Times, The Columbian, and other newspapers.  The bill has been endorsed by Common Cause, Fair Vote, and numerous other organizations. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In Gallup polls since 1944, only about 20% of the public has supported the current system of awarding all of a state’s electoral votes to the presidential candidate who receives the most votes in each separate state (with about 70% opposed and about 10% undecided). The recent Washington Post, Kaiser Family Foundation, and Harvard University poll shows 72% support for direct nationwide election of the President. This national result is similar to recent polls in Arkansas (80%), California (70%), Colorado (68%), Connecticut (73%), Delaware (75%), Kentucky (80%), Maine (71%), Massachusetts (73%), Michigan (73%), Mississippi (77%), Missouri (70%), New Hampshire (69%), Nebraska (74%), Nevada (72%), New Mexico (76%), New York (79%), North Carolina (74%), Ohio (70%), Pennsylvania (78%), Rhode Island (74%), Vermont (75%), Virginia (74%), Washington (77%), and Wisconsin (71%). &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The National Popular Vote bill has passed 22 state legislative chambers, including one house in Arkansas, Colorado, Maine, Michigan, North Carolina, and Washington, and both houses in California, Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, Maryland, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Vermont. The bill has been enacted by Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, and Maryland. These four states possess 50 electoral votes — 19% of the 270 necessary to bring the law into effect.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;See http://www.NationalPopularVote.com</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/3690748619964349701/comments/default/4763839377249641458'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/3690748619964349701/comments/default/4763839377249641458'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.underthedome.com/2009/02/hb1204-first-on-todays-house-agenda.html?showComment=1233882180001#c4763839377249641458' title=''/><author><name>mvymvy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07860792846652677912</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.underthedome.com/2009/02/hb1204-first-on-todays-house-agenda.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4870905574657583796.post-3690748619964349701' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/posts/default/3690748619964349701' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-507246720'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4870905574657583796.post-5445112548568515853</id><published>2009-02-05T19:03:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-05T19:03:00.000-06:00</updated><title type='text'>The major shortcoming of the current system of ele...</title><content type='html'>The major shortcoming of the current system of electing the President is that presidential candidates concentrate their attention on a handful of closely divided "battleground" states. 98% of the 2008 campaign events involving a presidential or vice-presidential candidate occurred in just 15 closely divided “battleground” states.  Over half (57%) of the events were in just four states (Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania and Virginia).  Similarly, 98% of ad spending took place in these 15 “battleground” states.  Similarly, in 2004, candidates concentrated over two-thirds of their money and campaign visits in five states and over 99% of their money in 16 states.  Two-thirds of the states and people have been merely spectators to the presidential elections.  Candidates have no reason to poll, visit, advertise, organize, campaign, or worry about the voter concerns in states where they are safely ahead or hopelessly behind. The reason for this is the winner-take-all rule enacted by 48 states, under which all of a state's electoral votes are awarded to the candidate who gets the most votes in each separate state. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Another shortcoming of the current system is that a candidate can win the Presidency without winning the most popular votes nationwide. This has occurred in one of every 14 presidential elections.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In the past six decades, there have been six presidential elections in which a shift of a relatively small number of votes in one or two states would have elected (and, of course, in 2000, did elect) a presidential candidate who lost the popular vote nationwide.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/3690748619964349701/comments/default/5445112548568515853'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/3690748619964349701/comments/default/5445112548568515853'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.underthedome.com/2009/02/hb1204-first-on-todays-house-agenda.html?showComment=1233882180000#c5445112548568515853' title=''/><author><name>mvymvy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07860792846652677912</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.underthedome.com/2009/02/hb1204-first-on-todays-house-agenda.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4870905574657583796.post-3690748619964349701' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/posts/default/3690748619964349701' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-507246720'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4870905574657583796.post-2699035907942222183</id><published>2009-02-05T09:50:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-05T09:50:00.000-06:00</updated><title type='text'>HB 1339 concerns me more than the cigarette tax hi...</title><content type='html'>HB 1339 concerns me more than the cigarette tax hike.  Surrendering state sovereignty in an effort to join a movement that provides for a nationwide popular vote is foolish.  It is vital that we respect the Constitution's authority on this matter and recognize that the Electoral College serves an important role in maintaining our freedom from tyranny.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/3690748619964349701/comments/default/2699035907942222183'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/3690748619964349701/comments/default/2699035907942222183'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.underthedome.com/2009/02/hb1204-first-on-todays-house-agenda.html?showComment=1233849000000#c2699035907942222183' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.underthedome.com/2009/02/hb1204-first-on-todays-house-agenda.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4870905574657583796.post-3690748619964349701' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4870905574657583796/posts/default/3690748619964349701' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1428058886'/></entry></feed>
